Elf/Hornet Register
Would you like to react to this message? Create an account in a few clicks or log in to continue.

rusty tank

+4
patlink
Red Riley
TONYELF
reymondos
8 posters

Go down

rusty tank Empty rusty tank

Post  reymondos Sat Feb 12, 2011 6:48 pm

Hello,

I am trying to find a solution to reusing my rusty Beach Car tank. It was left outside without a cap for years.All the internal surface is covered in rust.Big time.
I would prefer to use the same tank if possible. if not, does the tank look like a stock Mini or Elf tank?
I have heards about rust fighting liquids, plastification, shaking chains and bolts and all sorts of remedies. have you actually tried any of these solutions?
Are you hapy with the results?
I even thought about splitting the tank and welding it back together...

rusty tank Beach530-1

rusty tank Beach528-1
reymondos
reymondos

Posts : 179
Points : 5109
Join date : 2010-12-13
Location : Athens, Greece

Back to top Go down

rusty tank Empty Re: rusty tank

Post  TONYELF Sat Feb 12, 2011 9:12 pm

BOOM!
You will probably do more harm than good, The existing weld may be impossible to split in my estimation. You may be better and safer to source another tank if de rusting treatment doesn't work.
Sorry I don't know of anyone has tried these tank treatment kits.
Note the neck on these tanks are slightly different to the normal mini saloon tanks making these usuitable.
TONYELF
TONYELF
Admin

Posts : 1743
Points : 7472
Join date : 2008-11-21
Location : Chester UK

Back to top Go down

rusty tank Empty Re: rusty tank

Post  Red Riley Sat Feb 12, 2011 9:23 pm

I haven't use this product yet, but I've heard good things about it. POR-15 Fuel System Restoration
They have international distribution, but I don't how hard it would be to get where you are. I know they have it in Germany and UK.
Red Riley
Red Riley
Admin

Posts : 1240
Points : 6979
Join date : 2008-10-27
Age : 65
Location : Johns Island, SC, USA

Back to top Go down

rusty tank Empty Re: rusty tank

Post  patlink Sat Feb 12, 2011 10:31 pm

john this is the stuff to use http://www.frost.co.uk/item_Detail.asp?productID=8223&frostProductName=Car%20Tank%20Repair%20Kit but doesn't look like you can get it via airmail to greece

patlink

Posts : 45
Points : 5602
Join date : 2009-02-12
Location : Widnes

Back to top Go down

rusty tank Empty Re: rusty tank

Post  Red Riley Sun Feb 13, 2011 12:16 am

patlink wrote:john this is the stuff to use http://www.frost.co.uk/item_Detail.asp?productID=8223&frostProductName=Car%20Tank%20Repair%20Kit but doesn't look like you can get it via airmail to greece

Yes, the same stuff as what I posted.
Red Riley
Red Riley
Admin

Posts : 1240
Points : 6979
Join date : 2008-10-27
Age : 65
Location : Johns Island, SC, USA

Back to top Go down

rusty tank Empty Re: rusty tank

Post  asahartz Tue Feb 15, 2011 11:25 pm

Welding an old petrol tank is dangerous and needs a specialist. If the rust is significant it may be too thin to weld anyway.

It looks like a stock Elf tank. You won't find a new one of those. Sourcing a good used one could be your best option but it won't be easy.

As far as I am aware, all the new tanks available are the later larger 7.5 gallon-capacity version, and as only Heritage tanks are available, they're very expensive (£140). On top of that you would have to get the filler neck extended. Not a happy choice for any of us, and especially for you, as I'm sure you want to keep that unique car as original as possible.

Elf/Hornet people, look after your tanks!
asahartz
asahartz

Posts : 415
Points : 5966
Join date : 2009-03-03
Age : 62
Location : Mansfield, Notts

Back to top Go down

rusty tank Empty Re: rusty tank

Post  Zef Tue Feb 15, 2011 11:35 pm

Any idea how much to ship a tank to you from the UK? I'm not going to need mine as it'll be too small. All I need is a filler neck in decent condition to make it look like the tank is in the original position.
Zef
Zef

Posts : 140
Points : 5622
Join date : 2009-06-25
Age : 53
Location : Yorkshire

Back to top Go down

rusty tank Empty Re: rusty tank

Post  Elf Service Wed Feb 16, 2011 12:21 am

I have a spare Elf/Hornet petrol tank which I'm happy to offer you but looking at the images, are you sure your existing tank has the modified cranked neck. I'm not too sure but the neck looks straight to me, as per the standard Mini. If you can post some "side on" close up images on the forum then I'm sure we can confirm if it's standard Mini or Elf/Hornet.
Elf Service
Elf Service

Posts : 226
Points : 5850
Join date : 2008-12-04
Location : Worcestershire

Back to top Go down

rusty tank Empty Re: rusty tank

Post  reymondos Wed Feb 16, 2011 10:09 am

I'll take some more pics and upload the later.

I found a company that does a chemical treatment of tanks by dipping them in three different baths, thus de-rusting, cleaning and sealing the tank.
reymondos
reymondos

Posts : 179
Points : 5109
Join date : 2010-12-13
Location : Athens, Greece

Back to top Go down

rusty tank Empty Re: rusty tank

Post  1071kev Wed Feb 16, 2011 12:47 pm

Elf Service wrote:I have a spare Elf/Hornet petrol tank which I'm happy to offer you but looking at the images, are you sure your existing tank has the modified cranked neck. I'm not too sure but the neck looks straight to me, as per the standard Mini. If you can post some "side on" close up images on the forum then I'm sure we can confirm if it's standard Mini or Elf/Hornet.

Yes, looks to me like a standard early mini saloon tank with the standard neck so should be easier to source a replacement if required. Remove the sender unit before you try any chemical treatments. The gasket and screws were available from Minispares quite recently.

1071kev

Posts : 95
Points : 5208
Join date : 2010-05-19
Location : Bonnie Scotland

Back to top Go down

rusty tank Empty Re: rusty tank

Post  reymondos Thu Feb 17, 2011 11:37 am

Here are the photos of the neck.

rusty tank Beach579

rusty tank Beach578

have noticed a small plastic cylindrical filter at the end of the fuel pick up pipe? is that something you change? it would be very difficult to reach, remove and replace.
reymondos
reymondos

Posts : 179
Points : 5109
Join date : 2010-12-13
Location : Athens, Greece

Back to top Go down

rusty tank Empty Re: rusty tank

Post  Elf Service Thu Feb 17, 2011 10:41 pm

The tank looks like a standard early Mini unit.
Re the filter in the neck, either pull it back through the neck, or remove the fuel gauge sender unit and retrieve the filter through the inspection hole.
Elf Service
Elf Service

Posts : 226
Points : 5850
Join date : 2008-12-04
Location : Worcestershire

Back to top Go down

rusty tank Empty rusty tank

Post  1071kev Mon Feb 21, 2011 8:40 pm

Regarding the filter on the pick-up pipe. I'm not sure you can remove this, also not sure if it is plastic. A friend found this filter blocked on his car. We tried forcing a welding rod up the pipe to knock it off without success. Perhaps the chemical cleaning process will clear yours and leave it undamaged. Suggest you check it is clear by blowing an airline through it before you fit it to the car and recommend you fit an inline filter between the tank and fuel pump. Keep up the good work.

1071kev

Posts : 95
Points : 5208
Join date : 2010-05-19
Location : Bonnie Scotland

Back to top Go down

rusty tank Empty Re: rusty tank

Post  Sponsored content


Sponsored content


Back to top Go down

Back to top


 
Permissions in this forum:
You cannot reply to topics in this forum